Gettman, David, PFC

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Current Service Status
USA Veteran
Current/Last Rank
Private First Class
Current/Last Service Branch
Armor
Current/Last Primary MOS
11E20-Armor Crewman
Current/Last MOS Group
Armor
Primary Unit
1974-1975, 11E20, C Troop, 1st Squadron, 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment
Previously Held MOS
11E10-Armor Crewman
95B10-Military Police
24L-Improved Hawk Launcher Electrical/Mechanical Systems Repairman
Service Years
1972 - 1975
Official/Unofficial US Army Certificates
Army Track Vehicle Driver Certificate
Cold War Certificate
Order of the Spur
Reforger Certificate
US Army Disabled Veteran Certificate
Voice Edition
Armor
Private First Class
One Service Stripe


 Ribbon Bar

Rifle
Pistol
Tank Weapons

 

 Official Badges 

Army Military Police Military Police Brassard


 Unofficial Badges 

Military Police Recon Armor Shoulder Cord MP Shoulder Cord

Cold War Medal Order of The Spur (Gold) Cold War Veteran Border Tab




 Military Associations and Other Affiliations
American Legion2nd Cavalry Association99th Infantry Division AssociationChapter 18
US Constabulary Association2nd Infantry (Indianhead) Division Association 2nd Infantry Division Korean War Veterans AllianceWWII Memorial National Registry
83rd Infantry Division Association
  1999, American Legion - Assoc. Page
  1999, 2nd Cavalry Association
  1999, 99th Infantry Division Association
  2000, Disabled American Veterans (DAV), Chapter 18 (Member) (Washington) - Chap. Page
  2002, US Constabulary Association
  2002, 2nd Infantry (Indianhead) Division Association
  2006, 2nd Infantry Division Korean War Veterans Alliance
  2009, WWII Memorial National Registry - Assoc. Page
  2021, 83rd Infantry Division Association - Assoc. Page


 Additional Information
What are you doing now:

Disabled vet, enjoying my retirement. I stay busy getting involved with veterans groups, like the Second Cavalry "Toujours Pret" Assoc; 99th Inf "Checkerboard" Assoc; 2nd Inf "Indianhead" Assoc; US Constabulary "Circle C" Assoc; 42nd Inf "Rainbow" Assoc; 99th Recon Trp "Forever Forward" Assoc; 72nd Tnk Bn "Crusaders" Assoc; American Legion life member; DAV life member. I'm an editor on the Second Cavalry Assoc History Center and News Center websites, and have three more personal sites honoring my dad's service, Battle Babies, the 99th Infantry Division in WW II; Forever Forward, the 99th Cavalry Reconnaissance Troop in WW II; and Dad's Shooting Awards, some of the shooting awards my dad won, mostly while in the National Guard from 1930-38.

   

 Enlisted/Officer Basic Training
  1972, 2nd Battalion, 1st Training Brigade (BCT) (Fort Campbell, KY), B/4
  1972, 2nd Battalion, 1st Training Brigade (BCT) (Fort Campbell, KY), B/4
  1972, 2nd Battalion, 1st Training Brigade (BCT) (Fort Campbell, KY), B/4
 Unit Assignments
US Army Armor Center and School (Cadre) Fort Knox, KY15th Military Police Brigade385th Military Police Battalion1st Battalion, 59th Air Defense Artillery
1st Squadron, 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment
  1972-1972, 11E10, HHC, US Army Armor Center and School (Cadre) Fort Knox, KY
  1972-1972, 11E10, 1st Battalion, 1st Armor Training Brigade
  1972-1972, 95B10, 15th Military Police Brigade
  1972-1972, 95B10, 385th Military Police Battalion
  1972-1973, 95B10, 385th Military Police Battalion
  1973-1973, 385th Military Police Battalion
  1973-1974, 24L, HHB, 1st Battalion, 59th Air Defense Artillery
  1974-1975, 11E20, C Troop, 1st Squadron, 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment


 Remembrance Profiles -  22 Soldiers Remembered

Reflections on PFC Gettman's US Army Service
 
 Reflections On My Service
 
PLEASE DESCRIBE WHO OR WHAT INFLUENCED YOUR DECISION TO JOIN THE ARMY.
PFC David Gettman (Tacoma Dave) - Please describe who or what influenced your decision to join the Army.
That's an easy question. I joined the Army to make my girlfriend mad. Boy did SHE get the last laugh! Never saw her again.
WHETHER YOU WERE IN THE SERVICE FOR SEVERAL YEARS OR AS A CAREER, PLEASE DESCRIBE THE DIRECTION OR PATH YOU TOOK. WHERE DID YOU GO TO BASIC TRAINING AND WHAT UNITS, BASES OR SQUADRONS WERE YOU ASSIGNED TO? WHAT WAS YOUR REASON FOR LEAVING?
Living in the shadow of Ft Lewis all my life, where I was born the day the Korean War ended, I figured I'd be stationed there and be home for dinner every night. I mean, why pay to send me halfway around the world when we had a perfectly good
PFC David Gettman (Tacoma Dave) - Whether you were in the service for several years or as a career, please describe the direction or path you took. Where did you go to basic training and what units, bases or squadrons were you assigned to? What was your reason for leaving?
Resting on my Jeep
Army post right here 10 minutes from home? When the recruiter asked me what I wanted to do in the Army I was rather stunned. I had a choice? I vaguely remembered my dad had been in a tank outfit at Ft Lewis before I was born (717th and 72d Tank Battalions, 2d Infantry Division, 1947-51), so I blurted out "TANKS". Two days later, January 19, 1972, I'm on my way to Ft. Campbell, KY for basic training with Co B, 2d Tng Bn, 1st Tng Bde. We were the last training cycle to go through Ft Campbell, as the 101st was coming back from Vietnam to reclaim the post. Despite leaving my weapon with a friend while I hit the latrine only to return and find my weapon gone and an angry 1st Sergeant with my friend, screaming he was going to rip our heads off and do disgusting things down our throats, and spending ten days in the hospital with pneumonia after enduring 15 minutes with that same 1st Sergeant spitting in my face as he screamed at me what a goldbricking, fake, good-for-nothing, soon to be ex-Soldier I was before I could go on sick call with a 104 degree temperature, I still managed to finish top in my class and received a small trophy at the graduation ceremony.

Next I went to Ft Knox for training on the M60 Patton tank. The top 4% of each class was chosen for further training on the M551 Sheridan Armored Reconnaissance Airborne Assault Vehicle, a 17 ton mostly aluminum and styrofoam "tank" with a huge 152mm gun/launcher that could fire conventional type main gun rounds as well as infra-red guided missiles from the same tube, could be dropped from a C-130 by parachute, and could swim across calm bodies of water. So I remained at Ft Knox a few more weeks training on the Sheridan before getting my first assignment. After graduation I got orders for Worms, Germany, and my best friend from basic training and both tank courses, Pat Donaldson, got orders for Baumholder. So we volunteered for the MP's to stay together. Pat and I went to Kaiserslautern, Germany for a crash course at the 15th MP Bde headquarters, then got our first assignment with Co A, 385th MP Bn near Stuttgart. In September we were both chosen for the security detail to guard the Air Force 25th anniversary party in Stuttgart. After a few months in Stuttgart I was chosen for another detail to go on TDY to Neu Ulm to bolster a small detachment from Co B there who was having trouble with race riots, while Pat remained in Stuttgart. My transfer became permanent and I never saw Pat again. Heard he later became the colonel's driver.

Neu Ulm was great duty. I could have spent 20 years there and retired, but a bunch of us got in some trouble and were transferred to Co B headquarters in Heilbronn. Two months later we were all reassigned to different locations and duties. I ended up in Hanau with HHB, 3d Bn, 59th ADA, a Hawk missile unit. Somewhere along the line I had picked up an MOS that said I was an Advanced Hawk Missile Guidance System Repairman. After finding out I didn't have a clue what a Hawk missile was, I was soon transferred to Bindlach, near the Czechoslovakian border, with Troop C, 2d Armored Cavalry Regiment. I was back in a Sheridan again and finished my tour guarding the border. When my three years were up I called it quits. My dad and I had accrued 40 years military service in three wars between us, his 37 and my 3. I figured that was enough of a contribution to Uncle Sam.
IF YOU PARTICIPATED IN ANY MILITARY OPERATIONS, INCLUDING COMBAT, HUMANITARIAN AND PEACEKEEPING OPERATIONS, PLEASE DESCRIBE THOSE WHICH MADE A LASTING IMPACT ON YOU AND, IF LIFE-CHANGING, IN WHAT WAY?
PFC David Gettman (Tacoma Dave) - If you participated in any military operations, including combat, humanitarian and peacekeeping operations, please describe those which made a lasting impact on you and, if life-changing, in what way?
No, the closest I ever got to combat was guarding the Czech border during the Cold War. We took casualties, some fatal, but none by enemy fire. Still often very violent and in combat-like situations nonetheless. We trained hard and we partied hard. Back in the day when only the border Cavalry troops wore the black beret. Dad was the combat vet, having served in combat in WW II Europe and the Korean War, and in support of combat operations in Vietnam from both Vietnam and Thailand during his 37 year military career.
OF ALL YOUR DUTY STATIONS OR ASSIGNMENTS, WHICH ONE DO YOU HAVE FONDEST MEMORIES OF AND WHY? WHICH WAS YOUR LEAST FAVORITE?
By far the fondest memories I have are of Neu Ulm and the 385th MP's. There were only about twenty of us in the whole detachment and the duty was great. Highest rank was 2LT and we rarely ever saw him. Next was an E-6 who lived off post and
PFC David Gettman (Tacoma Dave) - Of all your duty stations or assignments, which one do you have fondest memories of and why? Which was your least favorite?
you only saw him if you were working the same shift and got partnered with him. Not often you saw anyone above E-4 in the barracks. We were a very tight group. We had the whole top floor of a three story building on a very small sub-post, providing security/law-and-order for the nearby Pershing missile base and local military community, and a co-op patrol with the local polizei. The second floor of our building was the PX and the first floor the mess hall. We did have a General come through once on an inspection. Wish I would have caught his name. I was petrified just being in his presence. I had a photo album in my wall locker and he just randomly flipped it open to a photo of my dad. He turned and looked at me, then asked "is he a little short s*** named Hank?" Next thing the General and I are sitting on the edge of my bunk thumbing through my album while everyone else in the room is heels locked. The local people were fantastic, the countryside was beautiful, and the dollar was worth a lot. I made many fantastic friends during my all to short stay there. Sadly it ended abruptly as often happens in the military and I was unable to render proper farewells and swap contact information. Still, there are a couple friends I knew then that I still talk with occasionally.
FROM YOUR ENTIRE MILITARY SERVICE, DESCRIBE ANY MEMORIES YOU STILL REFLECT BACK ON TO THIS DAY.
PFC David Gettman (Tacoma Dave) - From your entire military service, describe any memories you still reflect back on to this day.
Whats left of a Tank
There are a lot of memories that stand out, but one incident in particular was quite life changing for myself and many other people involved. During a large field training exercise near the Czech border in July 1974 we had one of our Sheridan's catch fire in the middle of the night. Because the 2d Cavalry Regiment was the first line of defense on the Czech border, our vehicles were fully combat loaded with live ammo 24/7. In addition to the twenty conventional 152mm main gun rounds in the turret, cases of small arms ammo strapped to the vehicle (7.62 cal, .45 cal, .50 cal), and all the diesel fuel on board, there are eight Shillelagh anti-tank missiles in the driver's compartment, each containing a shape-charged warhead consisting of 15 pounds of Octol, for a total of 120 pounds of high explosive plastic charges in the driver's compartment alone. It made for a rather huge explosion and I was only 30 yards away in the open. Needless to say there was a lasting impression.
WHAT PROFESSIONAL ACHIEVEMENTS ARE YOU MOST PROUD OF FROM YOUR MILITARY CAREER?
PFC David Gettman (Tacoma Dave) - What professional achievements are you most proud of from your military career?
Only medal I ever got was the National Defense Service Medal for joining the Army during the Vietnam War. I was recommended for the Soldier's Medal in 1974 by my platoon leader, 1Lt. Andrew Stilley, C Troop, 2d Armored Cavalry Regiment, for risking my life to save a fellow trooper from certain death near Inzendorf, Germany, 25 July, 1974 during a terrible vehicle fire and explosion. The medal was denied because the only witness was severely burned and returned to the US. I only learned a few years ago he had survived his burns. In 2007 I received a 70% service connected disability rating from the VA for PTSD stemming from the incident, along with a total permanent unemployable rating. July 2011 I got to return to the site on the 37th anniversary and took a photo with buildings from Inzendorf in the background while holding a photo of the same buildings from 1974 with tank parts scattered all over the field.
OF ALL THE MEDALS, AWARDS, FORMAL PRESENTATIONS AND QUALIFICATION BADGES YOU RECEIVED, OR OTHER MEMORABILIA, WHICH ONE IS THE MOST MEANINGFUL TO YOU AND WHY?
PFC David Gettman (Tacoma Dave) - Of all the medals, awards, formal presentations and qualification badges you received, or other memorabilia, which one is the most meaningful to you and why?
Hanging out with the Troops
The only thing I really earned in the Army besides PFC two or three times was that small scholarship trophy in basic training which I still cherish.
WHICH INDIVIDUAL(S) FROM YOUR TIME IN THE MILITARY STAND OUT AS HAVING THE MOST POSITIVE IMPACT ON YOU AND WHY?
PFC David Gettman (Tacoma Dave) - Which individual(s) from your time in the military stand out as having the most positive impact on you and why?
That's a really tough question. It was SFC McDanial's, that ancient piece of dried up jerky that couldn't have weighed 110 pounds but could run for days, that taught me in basic training to fear my superiors worse than death. It was Pat Donaldson, my best friend from basic training, who convinced me to volunteer for the MP's and set into motion a chain of events I still shake my head over. It was Steve Judd, just for the crazy times we had together and the friendship we still share, though we haven't seen each other in over 35 years. It was SSG Brow, whose inadvertent near-death experience totally changed my life forever.
CAN YOU RECOUNT A PARTICULAR INCIDENT FROM YOUR SERVICE, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN FUNNY AT THE TIME, BUT STILL MAKES YOU LAUGH?
There are so many that come to mind, but most I can't share here. One in particular I can get away with. It's when I was with the 385th MP's in Neu Ulm, 1973. My partner and I one graveyard shift had teamed up with another patrol in our M151A1
PFC David Gettman (Tacoma Dave) - Can you recount a particular incident from your service, which may or may not have been funny at the time, but still makes you laugh?
jeeps and decided to go out to the Ulm Rod & Gun Club to prowl around a bit. There was a full moon out in the clear sky and a low layer of fog in the fields about two feet thick covering the ground, concealing the large European Hares scampering about in the open field. It looked like we were driving on top of a cloud! Somebody spotted a hare jump up out of the fog and with blue lights flashing on our jeeps, the chase was on. For probably a half hour we raced around in circles chasing hares when I spotted eyes glowing across the field...something much larger than a hare. It was a large Red Deer stag standing near the back of the field. The four of us took off across the field full throttle, side by side just three feet apart in our two canvas top jeeps with the doors removed, laughing and hooting and yelling back and forth, when in the blink of an eye the other jeep was gone.

I stopped and shut my lights off but couldn't see a trace of the other jeep, just a foggy field in the moonlight. I started back tracking and found the other jeep nosed into the far side of a 15 foot wide gully that ran nearly the entire width of the field. I had just skirted the end of it! The driver busted his lip pretty good on the steering wheel and the passenger banged his knees into the dash nice and hard, but both were OK after watching my partner and I roll around on the ground in tears, dressed in our khakis. The jeep on the other hand was totaled. We had to call for a wrecker and fess up to what we were doing out there. Got a good chewing out, but that was it. We also got a brand new jeep, one of the A2 models none of us had ever seen. As the dispatcher was a very good friend, it became my personal jeep when I was on shift.
WHAT PROFESSION DID YOU FOLLOW AFTER YOUR MILITARY SERVICE AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING NOW? IF YOU ARE CURRENTLY SERVING, WHAT IS YOUR PRESENT OCCUPATIONAL SPECIALTY?
PFC David Gettman (Tacoma Dave) - What profession did you follow after your military service and what are you doing now? If you are currently serving, what is your present occupational specialty?
Pretty much just kicked around after the service. Never could seem to hold down a job very long. Family and friends kept me from living in the street. I have a permanent 80% service connected disability rating from the VA with 100% benefits for total/permanent unemployable. So now I fill my days helping vets and their families over the internet. Got a few websites I administer, both personal and through the 2d Cavalry Association. Heavily involved with the 2d Cavalry Association, the active 2d Cavalry Regiment, and the 2d Cavalry's Reed Museum and Regimental Heritage Center.
WHAT MILITARY ASSOCIATIONS ARE YOU A MEMBER OF, IF ANY? WHAT SPECIFIC BENEFITS DO YOU DERIVE FROM YOUR MEMBERSHIPS?
Disabled American Veterans, Chapter 18 Washington life member; American Legion, Post #2 Washington life member; 2d Cavalry Association, life member; Dragoon Foundation, life member; 99th Infantry Division Association, associate member; 42d Rainbow Division Veteran's Memorial Foundation, Millennium Chapter, associate member; 72d Tank Battalion Crusaders, associate life member; United States Constabulary
PFC David Gettman (Tacoma Dave) - What military associations are you a member of, if any? What specific benefits do you derive from your memberships?
Association, Outpost 8 Washington, associate member; 2nd Infantry Division Korean War Veteran's Alliance, associate member; Second (IndianHead) Division Association, associate member. The benefits I've derived are too numerous to list. I've met people who knew my dad well during combat in WW II and attended their final reunion. I spoke with one of my dad's best friends from the Korean War, and though we never met face to face, I attended his funeral and met his wife and sons. I reunited two best friends who hadn't seen each other since WW II ended. I was part of starting a tribute to two US Soldiers killed in Czechoslovakia during a secret mission in the final few days of WW II in Europe, spawning an annual ceremony in the Czech Republic and creating hundreds of friendships with our former Cold War adversaries. The list goes on and on, continuing to grow all the time.
IN WHAT WAYS HAS SERVING IN THE MILITARY INFLUENCED THE WAY YOU HAVE APPROACHED YOUR LIFE AND YOUR CAREER? WHAT DO YOU MISS MOST ABOUT YOUR TIME IN THE SERVICE?
PFC David Gettman (Tacoma Dave) - In what ways has serving in the military influenced the way you have approached your life and your career? What do you miss most about your time in the service?
I always had respect and admiration for members of the military, but after having served and experienced the camaraderie during and after my service among fellow Soldiers and veterans, its just hard to explain to anyone who hasn't had the experience and it's a very important part of my life to this day. These people are as close or closer to me than my own family. I've learned to recognize that certain bearing that an old veteran has, and often take time to thank them for their service and try to coax a little of their story out, often a well guarded secret nobody has asked about since the war. I've also learned how to get over a guarded fence!
BASED ON YOUR OWN EXPERIENCES, WHAT ADVICE WOULD YOU GIVE TO THOSE WHO HAVE RECENTLY JOINED THE ARMY?
PFC David Gettman (Tacoma Dave) - Based on your own experiences, what advice would you give to those who have recently joined the Army?
Take every chance you get to learn everything offered to you. Take time to record contact information for friends you make, because you'll want to find them in years to come. Take lots of pictures, because friends and family won't believe your stories and memories will start to fade. Take advantage of the current GI Bill and every other benefit offered. If you're injured, get proof! Times, dates, locations, witnesses, medical reports. You can never have too much proof. It may come in handy during a later VA claim. Don't let your GI insurance lapse after you get out. It is one of the best deals you will ever encounter. Remember your regiment, and follow your officers.
IN WHAT WAYS HAS TOGETHERWESERVED.COM HELPED YOU REMEMBER YOUR MILITARY SERVICE AND THE FRIENDS YOU SERVED WITH.
PFC David Gettman (Tacoma Dave) - In what ways has TogetherWeServed.com helped you remember your military service and the friends you served with.
Togetherweserved.com has given me the place and chance to showcase my dad's 37 year career and pay tribute to numerous fallen troopers from other eras. It's given me a place to express my thoughts and memories of my times in the service with others of like experience. It's also given me a place to read of others experiences from different times and places. I've ran into some old friends here, and made even more. Proud to be a life member.

DB 6/21/2016

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