Elder, Vernon, SGT

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Current Service Status
USA Veteran
Current/Last Rank
Sergeant
Current/Last Service Branch
Aviation
Current/Last Primary MOS
93H-Air Traffic Control Tower Operator
Current/Last MOS Group
Signal
Primary Unit
1968-1972, 93B10, 165th Aviation Group
Previously Held MOS
93B10-Air Traffic Controller
Service Years
1967 - 1973
Aviation
Sergeant
Two Service Stripes
Eight Overseas Service Bars

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What are you doing now:

Nearing civilian retirement intending to live in/near Cam Ranh Bay, Vietnam

   

   1968-1972, 93B10, 165th Aviation Group
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- / 1972
Unit
165th Aviation Group Unit Page
Rank
Sergeant
MOS
93B10-Air Traffic Controller
Base, Fort or City
Dong Ba Thin
State/Country
Vietnam, South (Vietnam)
 
 
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 165th Aviation Group Details

165th Aviation Group
The 165th Combat Aviation Group (CAG) was activated on 17 February 1969 at Long Binh to assume the Air Traffic Control (ATC) mission over the entire length and breadth of South Vietnam. It included all flight following, ground controlled radar approach facilities, Army airfield and tower operations, and special operations when required. Prior to its formation, ATC was loosely organized but professionally accomplished by the 125th Aviation Company (ATC) and numerous aviation detachments organic to aviation companies and battalions located at airfields from the Delta to the DMZ. The requirements for ATC had grown rapidly with the employment of division-sized units and overwhelmed the capabilities of these units. The 125th and all the other entities providing ATC were assigned to the 58th Aviation Battalion activated on 1 March 1968 for centralized command and control purposes. The 58th was deactivated on 17 February 1969 when the 165th CAG replaced it and assumed its assets and mission. Assigned to the 165th CAG were: 125th Aviation Company (ATC) at Bien Hoa, 120th AHC at Long Binh/Saigon, the Command Aircraft Company equipped with U-21s at Plantation, and 36 Aviation Detachments operating Army airfields at 36 locations in South Vietnam. Those assigned to Army divisions had the word (Divisional) following their name. The 165th had about 1,300 personnel. In January 1972 the 165th Group was disbanded with the remaining airfield operations reporting to brigade.
Type
Aviation
 
Parent Unit
Aviation Units
Strength
Group
Created/Owned By
Not Specified
   

Last Updated: Jun 19, 2010
   
Memories For This Unit

Best Moment
Escape from Viet Cong, Vietnam Tet 1969

Chain of Command
1st Avn Bde,165th Avn Grp, 339th Aviation Support Det (ASD/ADD) II Corps, Khanh Hoa Province, also 1st Avn Bde, 17th Avn Grp, 7th Air Cav, 339th ASD/ADD

   

Other Memories
Dong Ba Thin RVN 1968 thru 1972, Ninh Hoa RVN 1972, Khanh Hoa Province/II Corps 1968 thru 1972

   
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113 Members Also There at Same Time
165th Aviation Group

Newell, Lloyd, SP 5, (1969-1971) AV 93B10 Specialist 5
Passoni, David, SSG, (1969-2005) AV 93C Staff Sergeant
Wolf, Eric, SSG, (1968-1976) AV 93H Staff Sergeant
Barrett, Mark, SP 5, (1969-1972) AV 93H Specialist 5
Murdock, Tim (George), SP 5, (1969-1971) AV 93K Specialist 5
Scheffel, Nathan, SP 5, (1969-1972) AV 93H Specialist 5
Scheffel, Nathan ( Nate ), SP 5, (1969-1972) AV 93H Specialist 5
Wilson, Tom, SP 5, (1968-1971) AV 93J Specialist 5
Felty, Roy Lee, SP 4, (1968-1969) AV 67N10 Specialist 4
Wright, Randy, SP 4, (1970-1973) AV 67N20 Specialist 4
Legener, Richard G., COL, (1951-1977) AV 1982 Lieutenant Colonel
Tobias, John Chilcott, LTC, (1955-1970) AV 1982 Lieutenant Colonel
Brown, Tommie, LTC, (1969-1992) IM 62520 Captain
Davis, Anthony, 1LT, (1970-1971) SC 0210 First Lieutenant
Knight, Michael, CPT, (1967-1969) TC 1980 First Lieutenant
Demers, Guy, CW4, (1969-1997) TC 062B Warrant Officer 1
Nelson, Scott Thomas, WO1, (1968-1969) TC 100B Warrant Officer 1
Beale, Mills, SFC, (1955-1969) TC 93B20 Sergeant First Class
Brantley, Troy Ellis, SFC, (1944-1971) QM 94B10 Sergeant First Class
Wilson, Donald, SSG, (1953-1973) QM 76Z50 Staff Sergeant
Gear, Tim, SGT, (1969-1971) MI 05C10 Sergeant
Campbell, Thomas, SP 6, (1968-1970) SC 35P Specialist 6
Barlow, Edward Arnold, SP 5, (1967-1969) TC 93H Specialist 5
Blackburn, Peter, SP 5, (1967-1973) TC 93H Specialist 5
Byrd, Charles, SP 5, (1967-1969) TC 93B20 Specialist 5
Dwyer, Michael, SP 5, (1969-1970) SC 05B10 Specialist 5
Dylla, Gerald, SP 5, (1968-1971) OD 35M Specialist 5
Edwards, Michael, SP 5, (1969-1971) MD 91B10 Specialist 5
Gunner (Palmer Jr), William, SP 5, (1967-1971) TC 93J Specialist 5
Hughey, Steven, SP 5, (1970-1973) AG 71H10 Specialist 5
Korte, Jon, SP 5 AG 71H10 Specialist 5
Lagle, Charles, SP 5, (1966-1971) TC 93H Specialist 5
McCarthy, Paul, SP 5, (1963-1972) OD 26F Specialist 5
Moore, Joseph, SP 5, (1968-1970) AG 71B10 Specialist 5
Page, Billy, SP 5, (1968-1970) AG 71H10 Specialist 5
Rankin, David Geoffrey, SP 5, (1968-1969) OD 35N10 Specialist 5
Rice, John, SP 5, (1970-1971) TC 93J Specialist 5
Upton, Daniel Carl, SP 5, (1968-1970) OD 26D Specialist 5
Fletcher, Jim, SP 4, (1967-1970) TC 93H Specialist 4
Lee, Gary, SP 4, (1968-1973) SC 05C20 Specialist 4
North, Michael Walter, SP 4, (1968-1969) IN 11B20 Specialist 4
Perry, David, PFC, (1969-1971) OD 63N Private First Class
O'Brien, Robert Phillip, PV2, (1969-1970) TC 67A20 Private (E-2)
Bowens, Fairley, MSG, (1968-2007) AV Sergeant
Watson, Darrell, MSG, (1968-1988) AV Specialist 4
Howard, Robert Bailey, CW2, (1966-1969) Warrant Officer 1
Sellers, Charles Rayford, SFC, (1946-1970) Sergeant First Class
Bumgarner, Thomas Edward, SSG, (1957-1969) Staff Sergeant
Reith, Hans, SP 5, (1965-1969) IM Specialist 5
Ryerson, Timothy, SP 5, (1969-1972) SC Specialist 5
Gallant, Paul, SP 4, (1970-1972) SC Specialist 4
Palloni, John, SGT, (1969-1971) Sergeant
125th Air Traffic Control Company (Provisional)

Minor, James, SGM, (1968-1999) AV 93B10 Sergeant Major
Whitish, Wes, SGT, (1970-1973) AV 93B10 Sergeant
Thompson, Tom, SP 5, (1968-1969) AV 93B10 Specialist 5
Lauderdale, Sye, SP 4, (1969-1972) AV 93B10 Specialist 4
Borrego, Edward Lee, SP 4, (1967-1969) AV 93J Specialist 4
Hrastich, Thomas, LTC, (1968-1993) TC 061B Captain
Brantley, Troy Ellis, SFC, (1944-1971) QM 94B40 Sergeant First Class

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